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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure, as I have not looked at the inner workings of AutoTranslator. If you have de-activated the plugin and deleted it, it should not be interfering with it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure, as I have not looked at the inner workings of AutoTranslator. If you have de-activated the plugin and deleted it, it should not be interfering with it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: EcoGraphic</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>EcoGraphic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got the code working but it atarted stripping out all of the AutoTranslator plugin language bars in my sidebar. After removing the code from the header, de-activating the De-Google plugin and deleting it, I am still having the same problem. Any ideas as to how to stop this from continuing? - Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the code working but it atarted stripping out all of the AutoTranslator plugin language bars in my sidebar. After removing the code from the header, de-activating the De-Google plugin and deleting it, I am still having the same problem. Any ideas as to how to stop this from continuing? &#8211; Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: EcoGraphic</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>EcoGraphic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried implementing this plugin in K2 to no avail. Ended up copying the code in by hand. Might be something to look into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried implementing this plugin in K2 to no avail. Ended up copying the code in by hand. Might be something to look into.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2005 05:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Derek Meister&quot;&gt;Iâ€™m not sure I see the reason for the outrage... No links are added to your site until the reader whoâ€™s knowingly installed Google Toolbar clicks on the autolink button.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

AutoLink turns every page into an ad for a service that Google provides. If you&#039;re an online book store, AutoLink turns you into a billboard for Amazon.com: every ISBN number you list could potentially link to your largest rival. If you&#039;re a library, every ISBN number you provide in your online catalogue could potentially rob you of a client (thereby stealing away public funds the next time library usage is audited). Worse, the page author doesn&#039;t even receive credit for a potential sale. 

AutoLink is a good idea, but it must:    

1. Let the user customize the provided links. When the user says they want to autodetect ISBN numbers, allow the user to select the reseller that should be linked to, using a standard, well-known URL format. Extend this for all services: maps, ratings guides, movies, etc. This allows users to pick a reseller they like, trust, and are ideologically support.

2. Give the page author final say over the markup that AutoLink provides. Allow the author to control the types of hotlinks that are created: ie, &quot;links to maps are okay, but don&#039;t provide links to book sellers.&quot; Then, return the authoring controls to the hand of the author by allowing the author to override the services that are provided with their preferred services. A community newspaper could allow the ISBNs in its book reviews to be linked, but force the ISBNs to link to the local library, instead of the out-of-country pan-galactic big-box online retailer.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.cinder.dyndns.org/archives/15-Googles-Autolink.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve written a slightly more detailed diatribe here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Derek Meister"><p>Iâ€™m not sure I see the reason for the outrage&#8230; No links are added to your site until the reader whoâ€™s knowingly installed Google Toolbar clicks on the autolink button.</p></blockquote>
<p>AutoLink turns every page into an ad for a service that Google provides. If you&#8217;re an online book store, AutoLink turns you into a billboard for Amazon.com: every ISBN number you list could potentially link to your largest rival. If you&#8217;re a library, every ISBN number you provide in your online catalogue could potentially rob you of a client (thereby stealing away public funds the next time library usage is audited). Worse, the page author doesn&#8217;t even receive credit for a potential sale. </p>
<p>AutoLink is a good idea, but it must:    </p>
<p>1. Let the user customize the provided links. When the user says they want to autodetect ISBN numbers, allow the user to select the reseller that should be linked to, using a standard, well-known URL format. Extend this for all services: maps, ratings guides, movies, etc. This allows users to pick a reseller they like, trust, and are ideologically support.</p>
<p>2. Give the page author final say over the markup that AutoLink provides. Allow the author to control the types of hotlinks that are created: ie, &#8220;links to maps are okay, but don&#8217;t provide links to book sellers.&#8221; Then, return the authoring controls to the hand of the author by allowing the author to override the services that are provided with their preferred services. A community newspaper could allow the ISBNs in its book reviews to be linked, but force the ISBNs to link to the local library, instead of the out-of-country pan-galactic big-box online retailer.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.cinder.dyndns.org/archives/15-Googles-Autolink.html" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ve written a slightly more detailed diatribe here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with you when it comes to the hysteria surrounding AutoLink, however I still think there should be some way for a web developer to control it. Similar to the good ol&#039; &lt;code&gt;&#039;MSSmartTags Prevent Parsing&#039;&lt;/code&gt; meta tag.

I don&#039;t think the Lynx browser analogy is entirely relevant, but the point you raise regarding the adblock plugin is a valid one, and a very interesting argument. I think the only difference I can suggest between it and the Google toolbar is that the Adblock plugin, unlike Google&#039;s toolbar, is entirely dedicated to blocking ads. Meaning, if a user is installing such a plugin, they are wanting it to block ads - pure and simple.

I realise the AutoLink feature is no secret and is not hidden in some clause deep in the EULA, Gain-style, but considering that some people struggle to work out how to change their defualt home page from msn.com, I think there may be more than a few people wondering &lt;em&gt;&quot;where did these stray links come from?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;. Just because they have actively clicked on the AutoLink button, does not mean they have any idea what it means or what it does, and more importantly, how to get rid of it.

But if nothing else you have certainly got me thinking. Just like Zeldman says in his overview of AutoLink, a history of doing the right thing by internet users and web developers so far means that I may end up giving Google the benefit of the doubt on this issue, but time will tell.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with you when it comes to the hysteria surrounding AutoLink, however I still think there should be some way for a web developer to control it. Similar to the good ol&#8217; <code>'MSSmartTags Prevent Parsing'</code> meta tag.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Lynx browser analogy is entirely relevant, but the point you raise regarding the adblock plugin is a valid one, and a very interesting argument. I think the only difference I can suggest between it and the Google toolbar is that the Adblock plugin, unlike Google&#8217;s toolbar, is entirely dedicated to blocking ads. Meaning, if a user is installing such a plugin, they are wanting it to block ads &#8211; pure and simple.</p>
<p>I realise the AutoLink feature is no secret and is not hidden in some clause deep in the EULA, Gain-style, but considering that some people struggle to work out how to change their defualt home page from msn.com, I think there may be more than a few people wondering <em>&#8220;where did these stray links come from?&#8221;</em>. Just because they have actively clicked on the AutoLink button, does not mean they have any idea what it means or what it does, and more importantly, how to get rid of it.</p>
<p>But if nothing else you have certainly got me thinking. Just like Zeldman says in his overview of AutoLink, a history of doing the right thing by internet users and web developers so far means that I may end up giving Google the benefit of the doubt on this issue, but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Meister</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Meister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If you can cast your memory back to 2001 you will remember the controversy surrounding Microsoftâ€™s Smart Tags and the subsequent discussion over the adding of extra links your site without your knowledge. Well this is essentially what Googleâ€™s AutoLink does.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure I see the reason for the outrage.  Despite what the name might imply &quot;autolink&quot; isn&#039;t automatic.  No links are added to your site until the reader who&#039;s knowingly installed Google Toolbar clicks on the autolink button.  

This has to be done manually for each site and surfing away from the site and returning clears these changes automatically.

The paranoia and hysteria I see over a feature that requires the end-user to knowingly use each time makes me wonder how long until we see an anti-Lynx browser plugin for Wordpress to prevent readers from viewing sites without the images the site&#039;s owner intended to be there.  Maybe an anti-Firefox plugin to prevent users from running adblock to remove ad content?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you can cast your memory back to 2001 you will remember the controversy surrounding Microsoftâ€™s Smart Tags and the subsequent discussion over the adding of extra links your site without your knowledge. Well this is essentially what Googleâ€™s AutoLink does.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I see the reason for the outrage.  Despite what the name might imply &#8220;autolink&#8221; isn&#8217;t automatic.  No links are added to your site until the reader who&#8217;s knowingly installed Google Toolbar clicks on the autolink button.  </p>
<p>This has to be done manually for each site and surfing away from the site and returning clears these changes automatically.</p>
<p>The paranoia and hysteria I see over a feature that requires the end-user to knowingly use each time makes me wonder how long until we see an anti-Lynx browser plugin for Wordpress to prevent readers from viewing sites without the images the site&#8217;s owner intended to be there.  Maybe an anti-Firefox plugin to prevent users from running adblock to remove ad content?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Turns out I had the permissions of those files set way too restrictive.

That is all fixed now and they should download without errors. Sorry &#039;bout that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Turns out I had the permissions of those files set way too restrictive.</p>
<p>That is all fixed now and they should download without errors. Sorry &#8217;bout that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ontime</title>
		<link>http://movabletripe.com/archive/de-google/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Ontime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both your zip and tar files seem to be incomplete or corrupt. I can&#039;t open them even after multiple downloads of the files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both your zip and tar files seem to be incomplete or corrupt. I can&#8217;t open them even after multiple downloads of the files.</p>
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